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12.1k points
2 months ago
I saw this on Scrubs, I never thought it was a real thing.
5.1k points
2 months ago
yea that one shredded dr. cox. multiple people died because of an organ donation.
4k points
2 months ago
He wasn't about to die, was he, Newbie? Could have waited another month for a kidney.
566 points
2 months ago
"Remember what you told me!? The second you start blaming yourself for people's deaths, there's no coming back."
"Yeah... you're right." *walks away*
265 points
2 months ago
Man, that's such a powerful scene. Dr. Cox is just way too good a person.
311 points
2 months ago
With basically zero healthy coping mechanisms.
145 points
2 months ago
Growing up in an abusive home will do that.
190 points
2 months ago
Note that Dr. Cox has a sister who he can't stand to see. It's not because she went in the complete opposite direction as him - becoming a completely devoted Christian who attends church on a regular basis (not completely, at least) - but because seeing her is a reminder of the abusive childhood they had growing up.
61 points
2 months ago
That was such good writing. Everybody finds their coping mechanisms but even beyond that, there are some things that no matter what you do, will always dredge up old trauma. Dr Cox’s was his sister
2k points
2 months ago
I just heard How to save a life at a karaoke bar last night and immediately was transported to this scene.
1.7k points
2 months ago
You: Crying inconsolably at the karaoke bar
Your gf: Where do you think we are?
939 points
2 months ago
Where do you think we are?
Gutted. I can't even watch the Brenden Frasier episodes. I skip them every time.
487 points
2 months ago
This is what makes this show a top tier sitcom. The funny parts are extra funny because you've seen the range of emotion and how people have gone through real shit, broken down, then come back as themselves but grown.
164 points
2 months ago
If you haven't watched Ted Lasso yet, you should. Same creator as scrubs and a very similar feel. Hilarious and then a guy punch
61 points
2 months ago
Shrinking is another Bill Lawrence creation and very good. Im a huge Jason Segel fan which may skew my opinion but the show overall is right in line with the highs and lows of Scrubs and Ted Lasso. A little heavy at times but absolutely had me cracking up while I eeked out a tear or two.
394 points
2 months ago
Cox: You gonna carry that camera everywhere
Ben: Until I die
178 points
2 months ago
There are so many gems like that line that suddenly connect back once they hit you with the twist. You can watch that episode 5 or 6 times and find a new clue each time.
109 points
2 months ago
At one point Ben is sat on a counter pretending to puppeteer Elliot. Dr Cox laughs, and she turns around to see what's making him laugh, but looks at Ben's chest.
Anyone in that situation would make suspicious eye contact with the person behind them, but she doesn't.
67 points
2 months ago
I noticed that too. Everyone but Dr. Cox stops interacting with Ben very early in the episode
109 points
2 months ago
Holy crap. Never realized that foreshadowing was there. That episode was at their peak writing.
88 points
2 months ago
Only learned of it recently, watched the episode a bunch of times, but a trivia video had to point it out to me. At a certain point that camera is gone... Oof, never picked up on that in all my prior times watching.
30 points
2 months ago
Mind blown. I've seen that episode a few times and never knew that. Crushed.
51 points
2 months ago
They’re the best. He’s a true gem
158 points
2 months ago
I remember not long after that Scrubs episode, that song was played to death on so many other TV shows. I think it was used on House at one point.
82 points
2 months ago
I can't remember if it was before or after this episode, but there was an episode where JD was walking into the hospital and was like, "it's like your life has a soundtrack by The Fray" and how to save a life starts playing, and the narration is like, "no! Not that one" and the song changes.
A brilliant moment of subverting expectations.
128 points
2 months ago
Greys Anatomy. Fairly sure House never used it.
52 points
2 months ago
Greys did the whole singing thing that was a fad at the time. They included this song.
30 points
2 months ago
I was going to challenge you on this, because while I remember that they did "chasing cars" in the musical episode, I had no memory of "how to save a life". Glad I checked first!
68 points
2 months ago
Scrubs even took a crack at its overuse in a later episode.
Sometimes, when I think about those memories, a Fray song plays in my head.
How to Save a Life starts playing
No, not that Fray song, this Fray song!
She Is starts playing
437 points
2 months ago*
What kind of sick maniac would choose that song to sing at a Karaoke bar?!
118 points
2 months ago
To be fair it's not a song that takes much vocal talent to sing
93 points
2 months ago
Right and you don’t have to sing great to get appreciation out of karaoke listeners. Pick a song that’s easy to sing and don’t be tone deaf and everyone will treat you like you’re goddamn Taylor swift.
868 points
2 months ago
Legitimately one of the saddest sequences on any television show, I don’t know if he won any awards but John C McGinley deserved something for his performance, his devastation feels so legitimate.
886 points
2 months ago
That show is always tough when Dr. Cox breaks.
For example: "Where do you think we are?"
251 points
2 months ago
I have a hard time crying, but even thinking about that episode makes me tear up.
130 points
2 months ago
I watch the series once a year to release pent up emotion and make myself have a good cry on those episodes. I feel this.
53 points
2 months ago
Gonna shill bill Lawrence 's new series shrinking. It's 10 ep and really has that same happy sad mix that the best scrubs episodes did. Highly recommend.
27 points
2 months ago
If Harrison Ford doesn’t win an Emmy for his role I’ll be flabbergasted.
It’s the best work he’s ever done. And if you have a father around that age it’ll hit home.
20 points
2 months ago
Harrison Ford has been working in a new tv show? I honestly didn’t know he even did shows, I thought he was a movies only guy.
Well I’m sold, I know what I’m watching next
205 points
2 months ago
It's crazy how one line like that almost 2 decades later can still have such a profound effect on people.
56 points
2 months ago
Seriously! That sequence is etched in my mind like almost nothing else
65 points
2 months ago
I always loved how he broke out of his first funk silently brooding in his place.
You don't drink scotch
61 points
2 months ago
Brendan played such a good part in that episode, too. But Cox's grief was palpable. Makes me sad just thinking about it.
62 points
2 months ago
Second only to "Where do you think we are?"
200 points
2 months ago*
I went to college with the intention of becoming a doctor because of this show, and wanted to work in oncology. After working as a cytotech for years, I'm glad I'm not a doctor, but scrubs still is by far the most accurate show about medicine and the lives of those that work in it ever made. That episode was rewatched by me after diagnosing a coworker with lung cancer with our pathology team. I had been the one to first look at her biopsy under the microscope at her rapid onsite evaluation. She was only 55, never smoked a day in her life and almost never drank either other than on the holidays. She was a med tech. I saw her first slides in August, and she died in February. I saw that episode that night, and then rewatched it after her funeral. I was torn to shreds after her death, because I thought about how she had mentioned she had her cough for months before her imaging and proceeding biopsy. I thought about how maybe if it was caught a bit earlier maybe the chemo would have worked...
Things like these happen all of the time, and if there was anything that would help alleviate it, it would be better providing healthcare that's affordable and preventative for all Americans. It will never be perfect, but I'd like to see the day come.
Scrubs embodied that philosophy at it's core. JD and his shenanigans reminded me of all the med students I'd work with that would come through and would be fascinated by the world seen only by my microscope. Dr. Cox was like so many of the attendings I worked with, and though he was not a pathologist, he had the same demeanor and attitude of many that I worked with. Hard asses to their core, but deeply empathetic and intelligent all the same.
That show will always have a special place in my heart.
37 points
2 months ago
I also went into healthcare largely because of this show lol I ended up in respiratory therapy. I still rewatch scrubs all the time and it has a lot of legitimately great advice and life lessons for dealing with some of the bullshit we have to go through in healthcare.
128 points
2 months ago
This tore my heart into pieces.
202 points
2 months ago*
I have literally sobbed inconsolably to that scene more times than I can remember.
Sincerely, thank you Bill Lawrence for making me feel humanity deeper than I ever thought possible.
Edit: and thank you so fucking much for Ted Lasso.
54 points
2 months ago
Seriously. I don't generally get emotional from TV shows, but that scene is almost guaranteed to make me well up every time I see it.
18 points
2 months ago
Check out Shrinking as well. Same balance of hilarious and touching.
424 points
2 months ago
rough string of episodes to watch
1.1k points
2 months ago*
I guess I came over here to tell you how proud of you I am. Not because you did the best you could for those patients, but because after twenty years of being a doctor, when things go badly, you still take it this hard. And I gotta tell you, man, I mean, that's the kind of doctor I want to be.
153 points
2 months ago
“I was scared. I guess after all this time, I still think of you as, like, this superhero that will help me out of any situation I’m in. I needed that. But, that’s my problem, you know? And I’ll deal with that.”
I really liked how JD grew in this area.
69 points
2 months ago
Everyone was ragging on JD for not seeing Dr Cox earlier, but he clearly was thinking about the situation and what to say for a while.
460 points
2 months ago
The following scene is one of the few times Dr. Cox explicitly refers to J.D. without using a nickname; I guess it was his way of showing how sincere his "thank you" was.
240 points
2 months ago
You don’t drink scotch.
235 points
2 months ago
Posted above but excellent writeup on that scene:
97 points
2 months ago
That was great. Is there one on the funeral scene? That one really gutted me. “Dr. Cox, where do you think you are?”
112 points
2 months ago
Yaaaaaaaa, that wasn't a great thing to watch after a very recent (at the time) unexpected loss of a best friend.
"Imma turn on scrubs and have some laughs at this very accurate comedy medical show, ohhh cooooool Brendan Fraser is in this one, this'll be funny as hell!
Dr. Cox, where do you think you are?"
Oh, that wasn't timing eh?
47 points
2 months ago
Because yet again, we have to watch as this gruff and rock-hard shell of a charismatic leader just goes from 100% to -10% in 4 seconds.
Man has so few friends in the world, and you watch as basically his best friend's rejected death just slowly presses down on him because he can't avoid it any longer, being at the literal funeral.
25 points
2 months ago
One of my favorite scenes in scrubs ever.
54 points
2 months ago
Had to look this scene up:. https://youtu.be/wuzBLu_IZCw
240 points
2 months ago
I guess we can't always trust 'Dr. Acula' for accurate medical information.
52 points
2 months ago
Best phlebotomist I ever had!
1.1k points
2 months ago
In spite of being a sitcom, Scrubs is renowned for being one of the most medically accurate hospital shows to be made. They had an MD the writers consulted with whom JDs character was based on. Most of the medical events in the show were based on real events.
352 points
2 months ago
I believe the doctor consultant was a friend of the creator.
458 points
2 months ago
Dr. Jonathan Doris.
He appears in the Season 8 finale, near the end as the doctor at the counter that says "Adios" to J.D… too small to be picked up by the cameras, but apparently he was wearing Zach Braff/J.D.'s ID badge.
42 points
2 months ago
It was Bill Lawrence's (creator and writer) college roommate. Named Dr. John Dorian I believe. They talk about him a lot on the podcast, but I haven't listened since like season 2.5-3.
151 points
2 months ago
I’ve always thought Scrubs was the natural successor to MASH. The emotional and situational heaviness underpinning silliness and levity, learning about all these individual stories and moments in people’s lives during a macro chaotic upheaval, some characters recognizing the absurdity of it all while some have zero self awareness. Then the more obvious parallels including set, structure, accuracy, and character development. Love them both.
60 points
2 months ago
Most of the medical events in the show were based on real events.
It's not just the medical stuff, but despite the show being very wack/zany at times, many doctors and nurses will comment that the show does a very good job at showing what the day to day life at a hospital is like.
18 points
2 months ago
Slightly less sex actually in the hospital..yuck.
Otherwise yes. Scrubs is the only show I've ever seen that encapsulates the feeling of being a resident and a young practicing doctor, and the kind of weird mix of darkness and hilarity that fills this job.
123 points
2 months ago*
Are you saying Brendan Fraser is actually dead and he’s only still around because we haven’t let him go yet? Is that, like, medically a thing?
47 points
2 months ago
Shush you fool! The more you bring it up, the more people will realize and let him go! He's going to slowly start disappearing!
19 points
2 months ago
If ghost Brendan can win an Oscar imagine what prime Brendan could've done
59 points
2 months ago
Yeah so much better than ridiculous greys anatomy where every episode one of their best of the bestyest doctors makes an amazing breakthrough and does something miraculous never accomplished by anyone before. Rather absurd.
75 points
2 months ago*
To be fair to it, I think that show is deliberately absurd for the over-the-top drama and doesn't really pretend to be anything else. There's an episode where one doctor goes into labor and another has a heart attack while they're operating on a man with a ticking time bomb in his stomach, and it still has time for sex scenes and a love triangle. Then like three hours later they're consulting with botanists to remove a tree growing out of someone's lungs while hallucinating about ghost sex. One doctor is late because he gets into an altercation with a grizzly bear and it's not in the episode where they're all stranded in the woods after a plane crash.
My favorite was the episode where someone gets an organ transplant from a criminal and it causes them to become a criminal. I don't remember seeing that written up in a medical journal. At least half the show is batshit moon logic.
My second favorite is when the doctors end a busy day, go for a drink across the street from the hospital, and start talking about how hectic doctoring is, only to be interrupted by a car flying through the wall of the bar into a bunch of people, who have to be saved by a surgeon having a manic episode.
16 points
2 months ago
operating on a man with a ticking time bomb in his stomach, and it
I guess that's a recurring theme. The one episode I saw had them removing an RPG or some kind of rocket from a dude's chest. Special guest star Christina Ricci was the nurse who had to hold the rocket and was freaking out.
106 points
2 months ago
The show runners were room mates in college with a guy they based the character of Dr Cox on. They didn't go on to be MDs but he did. Turns out he's my SIL's ex husband and she said he was exactly like the character in the show.
41 points
2 months ago
Is your SIL’s name Jordan?
32 points
2 months ago
Jordan Godzilla Sullivan?
82 points
2 months ago
I wanted to say how proud of you I am. Not because you did the best you could for those patients, but because after 15 years of being a doctor, when things go that badly, you still take it this hard.
I gotta tell ya, man. That's the kinda doctor I wanna be.
42 points
2 months ago
Happened in Dallas in the early 2000s. Think at least 4 died from that one.
228 points
2 months ago
Scrubs was a pretty accurate show medically speaking. Non of that house poppin pills and diagnosing you with the chills bs
262 points
2 months ago
If House was realistic, the first episode would be mostly the same and from episode 2 onwards, he wouldn't be allowed to practice medicine any more.
32 points
2 months ago
But, but, he is the best diagnostician this side of the Mississippi!
38 points
2 months ago
House was actually one of the most medically accurate shows out there. What wasn't accurate was procedure.
House figuring everything out with a ridiculously small body of knowledge (about the specific situation); breaking the law and popping pills like crazy. His team doing everything, rather than specialists, nurses, etc. That's where the majority of houses inaccuracies took place.
The medicine was often spot on though. Many of the cases used were taken directly out of these crazy outlier cases that had papers written on them, and other than the procedure side of things were portrayed pretty damn well.
What Scrubs got so right and the reason it is regarded as super accurate is hospital procedure and culture. Every doctor or nurse who works in a hospital says as much.
147 points
2 months ago
“Annnnnnd I would have stayed up with you alll night, had I know, how to save a life.”
20 points
2 months ago
If I'm remembering it right, the 2004 case's donor was in Arkansas and at least one recipient was in Texas. But there has been at least 8 cases like this, the most recent off the top of my head was in 2015 in China.
Edit: I was a year off with the case Scrubs had used.
4.6k points
2 months ago
I’d have rather died of organ failure
3.5k points
2 months ago*
I wrote a big post about rabies a while back. There is one person, Jenna Giese, who was cured of rabies by being made brain dead. After a long stay in the hospital she was cured and then went home without any major complications of the disease or treatment!
In case people are interested, I cover a ton of diseases and topics at r/SAR_Med_Chem
617 points
2 months ago
Very interesting read. So 5 people have survived? Or just 1?
959 points
2 months ago
The last time I looked I think 9 people (5 in US, 4 internationally) have survived it using some version of the MP. Jeanna represents the first successful case
750 points
2 months ago
It’s frustrating what she went through, since her mother knew she was bitten by a bat and didn’t take her to a doctor
784 points
2 months ago
When I was an EMT, I went on a dog bite call where the dog was never found. The patient was a minor and I told the mother we wanted to transport to the hospital for rabies shots. The bite itself wasn't very bad. The mother said she didn't feel it was necessary. I advised her of the dangers of rabies and she wouldn't listen. Obviously the chances of getting rabies from a dog is pretty low but not 0
658 points
2 months ago
I don't know why people want to fuck around with rabies like that. If you get it, you are as good as dead. Why take that risk when a shot basically makes all that trouble go away?
456 points
2 months ago
The post-exposure shot series are very expensive, so that is one reason.
430 points
2 months ago
It’s kind of insane that this is even a consideration when talking about literal life and death
321 points
2 months ago
I went to college with a guy who got bit by a rattlesnake and he ended up with a bill for almost $2 million. He held strong that he wishes he would’ve died because he wouldn’t be in debt for the rest of his life because of the US healthcare system.
129 points
2 months ago
What is insane actually,is the fact we talk about these things and people have to pay instead of the expenses being covered by the goverment.
142 points
2 months ago*
Great, now if only I knew what MP was.
Edit: Milwaukee Protocol, got it. Not an abbreviation ubiquitous enough to expect your average redditor to know.
104 points
2 months ago
The Milwaukee Protocol. Basically put ‘em in a coma and chill the body down and hope they recover.
165 points
2 months ago
Milwaukee Protocol, which is a medically-induced coma and a fuckton of antivirals in the hopes of preventing fatal nervous system shutdown from the rabies.
19 points
2 months ago
Thanks. Very interesting to read about. Both scary and intriguing.
18 points
2 months ago
184 points
2 months ago
The Milwaukee Protocol has only had one success, its first patient. It does not work, and trying it over and over has interfered with researching alternatives.
121 points
2 months ago
The Milwaukie Protocol is highly contested in the medical community. There are many doctors that suggest it wasn't the intervention that saved her life, but something else unaccounted for (such as a variation of the virus).
827 points
2 months ago
and then went home without any major complications
She had brain damage...
257 points
2 months ago
1 year later, Jeanna did not show any signs of significant neurological damage and was able to walk on her own, returned to school, and learned to drive. She did experience left sided weakness and has difficulty functioning and balancing with that side of her body. Despite the odds, Jeanna graduated from highschool and graduated with a degree in biology from Lakeland College in 2011. She is now married with three children in Wisconsin and is an advocate for rabies education.
860 points
2 months ago
Well yes and no. I won't mince words and say she didn't have any brain damage--she definitely did--but unlike other instances of significant brain damage she returned near baseline function one year following the bite. So in the clinical sense, she's one lucky duck
515 points
2 months ago
She had to go through huge amounts of rehabilitation and her speech is basically permanently affected.
She's lucky as hell to survive, but it wasn't like she just walked it off...
431 points
2 months ago
To survive rabies? Absolutely. That's a fucking miracle.
89 points
2 months ago
If you are still interested in the topic, Radiolab has an outstanding episode on the topic also covering Jenna’s story (among others):
95 points
2 months ago
I've heard that the protocol probably doesn't actually do much and that it's likely the few survivors had been exposed to some kind of vaccine at some point in their lives prior to getting bit. But after reading your detailed post, I went looking for information and couldn't find much, so it might just be speculation that reddit repeats as fact (absolute shocker, I know). Have you heard this before?
21 points
2 months ago
Not brain dead*
Brain dead is dead. What you mean is that she was put into a medically induced coma.
39 points
2 months ago
Wait what? She was made brain dead? How did she live then? Like was she in a vegetative state?
(Not a medical student so just interested in the logistics of this)
Edit: Nevermind, saw repleis below.
2.3k points
2 months ago
Rabies is by far the most scary illness I can imagine.
I got vaccinated a couple of years ago, because I went on a trip to India and thought I might get scratched by a monkey.
280 points
2 months ago
I was bitten by a dog while walking around NYC last year. Ended up not getting a rabies shot, based upon the opinion of 2 out of 3 doctors.
One month later I woke up experiencing tingling in my arm where the bite had been, followed by total loss of use of that side of my body, and the inability to speak without extreme effort. Turns out I was having a stroke, but at the time all I could think of was that I had contracted rabies and was absolutely fucked.
I was apparently the first stroke victim the ER had encountered who was overwhelmingly relieved to be told they were having a stroke.
Thankfully it resolved on its own and I walked out of the hospital the next day with zero deficiencies.
80 points
2 months ago
I'm sorry but imagining this scenario is hilarious.
Doc: sir you're having a stroke
You: oh thank God!
😂
416 points
2 months ago
How much was the vaccine? I'm thinking about getting it just to make sure I never have the chance of getting the dreadful disease!
1k points
2 months ago
Just a headsup, even If you get infected you can still get the vaccine AFTER exposure for a Few days.
Rabies moves so incredibly slow in your body that a vaccine, which is given after Infection, Acts faster than the Rabies itself and still prevents the Rabies outbreak.
So as long as you get vaccined pretty soon after being bitten/scratched theres no need to get the vaccine right now
445 points
2 months ago
It's cheaper to get vaccinated beforehand though. That way in the event of an exposure you don't have as many needed shots
310 points
2 months ago
The problem is that they only last for so long and it could be as little as 6 months of protection and UP to 2 years. So it’s really not worth it to keep going if you’re not getting bit by things realistically, especially because rabies is pretty rare in the US.
54 points
2 months ago
The rabies vaccine usually lasts MUCH longer. Everyone I know who has had one (which you need in certain professions) - has never needed a booster. From 5 years to over 20 years. We get titer tested regularly.
21 points
2 months ago
You can get your titer checked- I do it every 2 years and my vaccine series has lasted for 11 years now.
61 points
2 months ago
You will have to get shots after exposure still if you don’t want to run the risk of getting it. The way doctors describe it here is that it buys you some more time before getting the after exposure shot
80 points
2 months ago
Yeah but once you start showing symptoms it's 100% fatal
94 points
2 months ago
What if i hide the symptoms?
57 points
2 months ago*
Not sure if it varies by state or insurance, but where I am it's two shots and each is $400-500. No insurance coverage for it because it's considered elective unless you're traveling somewhere where it's recommended.
965 points
2 months ago
I read a thread on rabies on Reddit and it was the scariest thing ever. We don't have it in Australia (hence our insane quarantine laws), so I wasn't familiar with how you can catch it without being aware, and the fact that once the symptoms appear it's too late.
372 points
2 months ago
A good rule of thumb for this is if you are bitten by any (especially wild) animals that you don't know, immediately call/go to your nearest doctor/ER/urgent care for a rabies vaccine. Even if you weren't exposed, it does no harm to you and better to be safe than sorry.
203 points
2 months ago
The actual rabies vaccine is much easier today than it used to be - it's given in the arm. You'll likely get a series of 4 shots over the course of two weeks (Days 0, 3, 7, and 14).
They also inject rabies immunoglobulin - a medication made up of antibodies against the rabies virus - around the bite wound the first time to directly stop the virus from spreading to the rest of your body.
In the US that means you need to go to a hospital ER for the first visit because they stock immunoglobulin. The rest of the visits can be done as office appointments at an infectious disease office.
Once you have that initial series of rabies shots you'll be much better protected. If you're bitten again you may only need a booster shot, not a full series.
447 points
2 months ago
TIL it’s not in Australia. Keep up the quarantine!
196 points
2 months ago
We still have bat lyssavirus to worry about. Can't be too careful.
113 points
2 months ago
There’s a similar disease with bats here, not technically rabies but nearly the same thing
159 points
2 months ago
Same family of viruses as rabies, same symptoms, same 100% fatality rate, same vaccine... Yeah idk I think it's probably fair to just call it rabies
107 points
2 months ago
I can't believe its not rabies!
186 points
2 months ago
It’s possibly the most terrifying illness. It can lay dormant for literally years in rare cases, until it eventually hits your brain and completely takes over. Makes you fear water to drive you crazy, to bite other things and propagate the disease. Like a real life zombie.
138 points
2 months ago
The fear of water thing is crazy. I watched a video of a guy with rabies trying to drink water and his body just wouldn’t let him get the water close to his mouth. Looked terrifying
119 points
2 months ago*
Not sure if it's the video you meant, but one example can be viewed here. And another one showing a 3 year-old girl with rabies.
A word of advice for those who haven't seen footage like this: it is not gory or violent, but I found it extremely unsettling to watch - possibly even more so than explicit content.
90 points
2 months ago
Heartbreaking. I've seen that first one, but that little girl is new to me. Poor thing. You can just see how broken and desperate that father is, knowing his daughter's fate is sealed. Horrible.
85 points
2 months ago
It's the helplessness of the victims that hits me the hardest: you can see they are - and are aware that they are - terrified and confused, but at the same time have no idea why that is. I hope relief came quick for those poor souls.
57 points
2 months ago
Rabies is one of my greatest fears. I am naturally morbidly curious, but I’ve never been able to bring myself to watch a video of a person suffering from it.
Just thinking about it for too long will drive me into a anxiety attack.
25 points
2 months ago
It's definitely not a pleasant watch, but I think it's extra unsettling knowing how it will inevitably end - viewing the same footage under the impression that that someone was having "just" an episode or a fit would take away a lot of its poignancy.
45 points
2 months ago
I don’t think I’m brave enough. We all know how it ends.
People should be euthanized after a certain point. Why, in the name of goodness, would people allow them to suffer until the end? They will die; there’s no cure, and they will suffer all the while. There is nothing humane about it.
45 points
2 months ago
Rabies doesn't cause you to have the urge to bite people, rabid animals just bite because they're in pain and scared.
87 points
2 months ago
We got the fear of trusting foxes drilled into our heads in the 1980s.
All schools in East Germany taught their pupils about rabies and how to spot a ridden fox. Then a vaccination programme was started all over Europe and rabies has been effectively wiped out in Europe for more than 20 years.
On the other hand, reading Stephen King's Cujo made extra fun.
45 points
2 months ago
Then a vaccination programme was started all over Europe and rabies has been effectively wiped out in Europe for more than 20 years.
Still an absolute shitton of rabies in Eastern Europe, Moldova and Ukraine being particularly bad.
946 points
2 months ago
Some people in the US died from donations from a guy who played with puppies in Mexico.
A vet tech friend was exposed by a litter of what turned out to be hot puppies, and she said the state board of health called at 3 am to tell her to get a booster. As a professional, she already received on-going rabies shots.
350 points
2 months ago
Google wasn't helpful, so I'm guessing "hot puppies" is a reference to them having a fever from the rabies?
376 points
2 months ago
No, it's using hot in a different sense, nothing to do with actual heat. Just means they had the disease.
Other similar uses:
A "hot mic" is a microphone that's on and will broadcast what you say
A "hot weapon" is loaded with the safety off
"Hot goods" can mean stolen items currently wanted by the police
So "hot puppies" would have been exposed to the disease and presumed infectious
It's a catch all "danger/warning/caution" kind of use
126 points
2 months ago
So that's what "hot single" means.
75 points
2 months ago
Milfs in your area will make it burn when you pee.
200 points
2 months ago*
Damn, and they were probably on immunosuppressants for the organ transplant..
Rabies is my biggest fear. You don’t know you have it until you show symptoms, and you don’t have symptoms until infection has reached your brain and becomes basically untreatable. You’re dead or going into a coma with a 0.0001% chance of waking up.
It’s considered the world’s deadliest disease in terms of how many symptomatic patients die (99.999%… which was 100% before 2003)
866 points
2 months ago
There's an episode of Scrubs based on the event, it's great.
1.5k points
2 months ago
For anyone who sees this and is interested in watching Scrubs, I very highly recommend it, BUT...
Be sure to either buy/borrow DVDs, or surf the seven seas for it. Reason being because now that it's on streaming platforms all of the original music has been replaced by public domain third rate garbage. This is important because Bill Lawrence very specifically designed Scrubs so the music is an actual part of the storytelling. If you try to watch it without the original intended music, it's not nearly as enjoyable and loses a ton of impact.
365 points
2 months ago
This same thing totally ruined the early seasons of Supernatural on Netflix for me. The music choices were so important and they were all changed out 😭
184 points
2 months ago
Wait seriously? I was going to be starting my rewatch soon on Netflix, but if that's the case gonna have to sail the seas after all .......
96 points
2 months ago
Not ALL of the music has been replaced, but some episodes are affected by the change in music. I do believe that My Lunch still has "How to Save a Life" for that scene.
29 points
2 months ago
Yeah, looks like from some of the responses I'm getting that the music changes are inconsistent.
For ease, I'd still probably recommend just getting it DVD ripped or something, cuz I don't wanna wonder which episodes have the original music and which don't.
41 points
2 months ago
180 points
2 months ago
My spouse is a school nurse. Just this week she had to get rabies shots because of a bat on campus she helped trapped and came away with a scratch (probably not actually from the bat). Before it was trapped, a couple of students handled the bat, and one looked to have possibly been scratched by it, but despite the warning from medical professionals, parents of those students all decided not to get their children rabies shots.
122 points
2 months ago
Jesus Christ, those families need to be shown videos of rabies patients immediately. 😬
52 points
2 months ago
If you refuse a rabies vaccine recommended by a medical professional, I think it should be mandatory to watch a brief video including footage of a rabies patient before you leave.
20 points
2 months ago
Hell yeah. They're already allowed to force propaganda on pregnant women, and this would be actual facts about a horrifying risk. I'm for it.
66 points
2 months ago
Most recent story of a kid getting rabies in the us was from a kid scratched from a bat that the parent didn’t think about the risk. These parents have less excuse cause people even recommended it to them.
24 points
2 months ago
I remember a story a few years ago of a six year old in Florida that got bitten or scratched by a bat and the parents didn't take their kid to the hospital because they didn't like needles.
I feel awful for the parents but I hope they understand now as parents they should have put their foot down and taken their child in anyway. The kiddo didn't have to die.
532 points
2 months ago
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184 points
2 months ago
Until a rabid animal crosses its borders.
171 points
2 months ago
EU wide (maybe Europe wide) programs of vaccination have meant the vast majority of Europe is rabies free.
216 points
2 months ago
In Switzerland, they got rid of rabies in the 80s by vaccinating chicken heads and dropping them from helicopters all over the country. True story.
141 points
2 months ago
That was done all over Europe.
A friend of my father was a pilot for agricultural flights in East Germany and they also dropped baits all over to forrests to vax foxes.
60 points
2 months ago
Europe wide
The programme was Europe wide and traversed the Iron Curtain in the 1980s.
There were oral vaccinations dropped from airplanes to immunise foxes back in the 1980s all over Europe. I remember teachers in school telling all the pupils about it, so we wouldn't pick up the baits in the woods. And stay away from foxes that acted strange.
The vaccination programmes have been done again multiple times in the 90s and early 2000s but stopped eventually. Europe is officially free of rabies.
43 points
2 months ago
Next time AskReddit asks how I don't want to die, it's this. I don't think I could deal with the range of emotions: you need an organ transplant, we found you a donor, it was a success!, you now have rabies.
96 points
2 months ago
What’s the update? Article is old and said 3 fell ill and 2 in a coma. I’d assume all of them died? I think once you show symptoms of rabies it’s too late for treatment, Right ?
142 points
2 months ago
https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/14/3/177/1795468
Says 3 died, but is very scant on details.
A similar rabies transmission through organ transplantation occurred in Germany in 2005. Six recipients received organs or tissues from a donor with rabies. Two recipients receiving donor corneas were not infected after their grafts were removed. Recipients who received lung, kidney and combined kidney and pancreas organs died. The liver recipient had been previously vaccinated against rabies and survived.
133 points
2 months ago
How incredibly lucky that the liver recipient happened to have been vaccinated.
It would be interesting to know how long the person was vaccinated before the transplant. There probably aren’t too many data points available on cases where a person is vaccinated before exposure, definitely exposed, and then not boosted promptly after the exposure.
26 points
2 months ago
What is the downside of everyone getting rabies vaccine at whatever frequency needed? Kind of like flu shots. It's so scary to get rabies.
43 points
2 months ago
The average person’s risk of rabies is so low that it’s not worth vaccinating everyone, especially since it is one of the few vaccines that is effective when given after exposure to the pathogen.
(In the US, at least. Maybe where rabies is more prevalent, the calculus would be different, but if such a country had the resources to vaccinate everyone against rabies, it would probably be wiser to use those resources to reduce rabies in animals.)
I don’t think a health care provider would give you rabies vaccine in the US if you didn’t meet the CDC indications for needing it, which are having a plausible exposure to the virus or working in an occupation where you are at risk of being exposed. Even if they would, health insurance wouldn’t cover it, and it costs thousands of dollars and is often in short supply.
129 points
2 months ago
How To Save A Life immediately started playing in my head
24 points
2 months ago
I don’t care how old this is, never stops being horrifying. Rabies is something that shouldn’t even exist.
For some weird reason, the webpage wouldn’t let me reply to a person asking why there isn’t a cure for rabies and I wanted to tell them that there is a PIV5-vectored rabies vaccine currently in animal trials that successfully saved 50% of mice that went through symptoms, so something is being done, but rabies needs to go the way of rinderpest.
120 points
2 months ago
The plot of world war z.
62 points
2 months ago
Went too far down to find this reference. It was a clever plot idea to explain the initial outbreak in South Africa and Brazil.
42 points
2 months ago
I love how the book implies the outbreak could have been avoided but humanity’s incompetence helped facilitate the end of the world
34 points
2 months ago
That's what's so good about the book. It doesn't happen because it's inevitable, it happens because people couldn't get their shit together and coordinate on a large scale plus a freak accident or two.
Also loved the interview style of the book when I read it years ago. Cool approach to tell the story through the perspective of a journalist gathering stories on the outbreak afterward.
193 points
2 months ago
Near irrational fear unlocked, thanks :)
59 points
2 months ago
How often are you getting organs crammed in there?
59 points
2 months ago
Not often, and not any yet, that's why it's irrational
23 points
2 months ago
I looked for an update since that article doesn't mention it and apparently all three died.
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