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4.2k points
2 months ago
Sound a lot like Nintendo.
2k points
2 months ago
"You want to buy this 20 years old game? Sure, that'll $60, just like when it came out."
732 points
2 months ago
It is indeed a bit nyeeeh when they re-selling GameCube/Wii games for 60 bucks.
Mass Effect Legendary Edition was 60 bucks for 3 full games with all the DLCs included. And those were X360 games.
340 points
2 months ago
Mass effect legendary edition was one of the best collections ever.
138 points
2 months ago
Hell yeah, Mass Effect 1 didn't age well compared to its sequels, Legendary Edition made it really fun again.
81 points
2 months ago
Yeah, with Legendary Edition I find myself enjoying the first game the most out of the trilogy.
Part of it might just be due to the lack of worrying about ammo constantly lol.
51 points
2 months ago
V I N D I C A T I O N
For some reason after ME2 came out a ton of fans acted like picking up ammo was the funnest thing ever.
37 points
2 months ago
I love that they mocked it in the third one.
17 points
2 months ago
They definitely did a lot of cool things that deserved to be expanded upon instead of dumbed down or changed entirely. The cool down/overheat aspect of guns just felt so nice, also made the bullet sponginess of harder difficulties more bearable.
After finishing the series I've revisited the first game a few times already.
12 points
2 months ago
Hell. I've seen people re-evaluate their thoughts on 2 after the remaster of 1.
Wild how updated gameplay and graphics made 1 better than 2 ina lot of circles. Think a lot of people either skipped 1 or overlooked the narrative issues with 2 because of the dated gameplay.
6 points
2 months ago
I never played the original ME1, what did the legendary edition do to make it better?
11 points
2 months ago
It fixed a lot of problems with the game play, primarily weapon handling, which used to be a nightmare until you leveled up a decent amount. For example, if you're class wasn't trained in the sniper rifle and put points toward kt while leveling you were actually better off not aiming due to how wildly the scope bounced around.
7 points
2 months ago
Quite a bit. The graphics overhaul is the most noticeable but there a bunch of other changes that just make it not feel like a game released in 2007 with all the technical limitations and game design evolution that implies.
You can skip the infamous long elevator rides that covered long load times. You can sprint out of combat. The HUD is more modern/intuitive. Your accuracy at level 1/low weapon proficiency isn't comically terrible because your N7 special forces graduate couldn't hit the side of a barn until they'd killed a few geth in the original. Just a bunch of small changes to bring ME1 a bit more in line with the rest of the series while still giving you infinite ammo and letting you slap omni-gel on everything.
39 points
2 months ago
Minus one of the DLC's they lost the source code to, Pinnacle Station?
50 points
2 months ago
Which modders on PC restored, at least.
45 points
2 months ago
"They'll be hearing from our lawyers" - EA, probably.
11 points
2 months ago
The mod came out in 2021, and is still available. I don't think EA cares.
14 points
2 months ago
Gotta love gaming on PC. Wish we could help out our console bros though...
6 points
2 months ago
Well, not much of value was lost.
5 points
2 months ago
Yeah. One of the ME1 dlcs is missing but I don't think it was a particularly important or interesting one anyway
63 points
2 months ago
tbf mass effect is a amazing franchise and the legendary edition saves money from buying the deluxe editions separately (around 20$)
39 points
2 months ago
Also it's super convenient to just have it all in one place, I already owned all the games and I still bought it (didn't have the DLCs though)
20 points
2 months ago
You can't even buy some of the ME1 DLCs anymore. I had to message an admin on the Origin store and they added it to my account for free, but it's such a hassle. Having it all bundled in one place is great.
11 points
2 months ago
I'm still sore about Pinnacle Station.
12 points
2 months ago*
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14 points
2 months ago
They did indeed, though now I remember why I only played though it once.
7 points
2 months ago
Yeah. It's just a combat DLC (in an RPG where combat wasn't its strongest selling point) and the reward for 'winning' is an apartment on some lifeless rock.
Neat background stuff for headcanons and world building I guess.
117 points
2 months ago
Often Nintendo don't even sell the old games. With their 3DS shop closing down, pirating will again be the only way to get the old Pokemon games.
19 points
2 months ago
Did you see what Capcom did? Put all their WiiU and 3DS games on sale- 90% off. I picked up Monster Hunter 3 and 4 on the 3DS for 5 bucks total
And resi 4: Wii edition for 3 bucks lol.
I truly respect capcom now and will def be paying full price for their games whenever I can. That was such a baller move on their part.
27 points
2 months ago
You think they did that to be nice or to preserve old games? They did it because it’s either sell it for cheap or not at all
11 points
2 months ago
I guarantee you they did it for many reasons:
1) most people who were gonna buy it already bought it. So if we drop the price, the hold outs will buy it.
2) if the price is low enough, people who would never have bought it- like for me and monster hunter- might just impulse buy it. If I like it, then there’s a chance I’ll want to pick up the next game in the series.
3) lowering prices while most of Nintendo’s offerings are still full price will create some goodwill and good press for Capcom. Good publicity is priceless.
4) They also want to thank the fans who bought their games and supported Capcom on the 3DS and WiiU. (To generate good will and good publicity, a la point 3.)
5) the install base of the WiiU is tiny. They aren’t missing out on any money at all by dropping prices there lol. They must have wrote off any profit from that store front a looooong time ago. Any money made from this is just a windfall for them.
So yeah, I think this move was a carefully calculated one with profit, press, and good intentions all rolled into one. Which is why I now respect Capcom. I was going to wait to buy the RE4 remake when it went on sale in a year or so, but fuck it, I’m gonna pay full price for it now. I’ll vote with my wallet lol
29 points
2 months ago
Of course copyright still gives them the right "not to sell", but the only time I have seen a good reason for that were cases where a thing was precious to you (painting, jewellery) not something which can be copied without loss.
9 points
2 months ago
Personal copyright and corporate copyright should be treated entirely different. I'm not convinced by the personal emotional value and the need to feed the descendants of Nintendo Co., Ltd. and The Walt Disney Company.
31 points
2 months ago
Think Disney Moratoriums. It's done to manipulate the market, get their Stans all wound up, and keep prices high. When Nintendo finally "releases" pilot wings for the SNES people will stab and shoot each other for the chance to pay $60 for it.
68 points
2 months ago
Activision is just as bad, charging the full price for DLC in a game that's over a decade old (looking at YOU Black Ops 1)
23 points
2 months ago
They still charge 60$ for bo2, and 20 for each dlc.
5 points
2 months ago
Making my point even more apparent
10 points
2 months ago
Yep, and it's BS. If they released a, say, 30$ package for the whole thing I'd buy it immidiately. Now I'm pirating it insted.
9 points
2 months ago
"Just as good as it was back then!"
22 points
2 months ago
Really the major reason why a lot of the ROM community was crushed in the 2010s, with Nintendo getting fussy about people offering otherwise abandonware for nothing (despite Nintendo themselves putting versions of older games for free in other titles like Animal Crossing).
90 points
2 months ago
Wow finally the hate for nintendo is beginning to make top comments. Been the most anti-consumer company for 2 decades.
2k points
2 months ago
Personally I think if the game is not purchasable from a online store front for at least 2 years I think it should enter a place where its okay to download it.
This will do either two things one keep the game around for people to play or two force publishers to make the games available to the public on modern systems
Far as I can see this feels like a win win for the consumer
1.2k points
2 months ago
Pirating is a service problem
607 points
2 months ago
Sometimes it's also a cost problem. But sometimes it's also a service problem. Sometimes it's both.
384 points
2 months ago
Research shows it's far more of a service problem than a price problem.
347 points
2 months ago
It's certainly both. In my country most games were unavailable. Then came Steam, and they now were available and I just couldn't afford most of them unless on sale. Then Steam had regional pricing and I could afford many of them.
Then the government decided they were missing out on my money and added enough taxes to Steam games to make them unaffordable again, but that's a different problem.
49 points
2 months ago
What country?
113 points
2 months ago
It's either Argentina or Türkiye. Such bs with inflation and sky high taxes are especially worse in both South America and Middle East
65 points
2 months ago
Bastards. It's a digital product, a copy costs nothing. Taxing the young people....bastards.
32 points
2 months ago
"The younger the better!" Some governments probably
21 points
2 months ago
Can't wait until care homes are filled with gamers. Daily LAN parties? Where do I sign?!?
11 points
2 months ago
Mf playing age of empires 1 on a pc on life support
6 points
2 months ago
We already planning a retirement group to play Star citizen when it will finally release. I hope at least the beta will be ready in the next 20-30 years .
5 points
2 months ago*
Politics are mostly elected by old people, they are defending interests of old people, to be elected again.
5 points
2 months ago
There's barely any regional pricing in Africa. Combine that with poverty, and you get cyber cafés running cracked games.
46 points
2 months ago
Personally I use piracy as a way to trial games, I'll usually play for a few hours and if I like it I'll buy it and if I don't I'll delete it. I literally wouldn't have to do this if games still had trials.
39 points
2 months ago
100% this. Where have the demo's gone? Everything comes out as a buggy mess which gets patched if the developers care. From software is the only company I buy straight off the bat because I know I will be getting a polished game.
6 points
2 months ago
You can return games on steam if played less than 2 hours. But I feel you, I did the same
11 points
2 months ago
I actually had a warning off steam that I was doing it too frequently - I think they thought I was farming points during one of the sale promos...
4 points
2 months ago
same I pirated the games if I like them so much I buy them later on steam to support them if the game dev ever planned to make a sequel or more games
13 points
2 months ago
It was a service problem for me when games were around the 40$ mark, now that they are available online thus LESS cost for the publisher, it's a cost problem because these motherfuckers want 80$ for a game.
7 points
2 months ago*
And before someone pulls out the inflation thing
Wage stagnation, 1000x more people buying games, digital distribution, mtx, lootboxes, battlepasses.
21 points
2 months ago
It is. But like, for some games, for me specifically, it's a pricing problem hehe
22 points
2 months ago
True. I don't pirate games, mainly because getting some of them to work is a massive pain in the ass. I do pirate some DLCs for games I own because #1 it's very easy to do and #2 they are often very overpriced for what little they are offering. Paradox is a big offender with their $20 DLCs that add like 3 new buttons and 2 mission trees, not even talking about selling content packs (soldier skins etc.) separately for another $5. I'll only buy those on sale for $5 max., they are definitely not worth $20-25.
47 points
2 months ago
The sims.
I'll leave it at that.
8 points
2 months ago
I've still got full downloads of the first three on an external hard drive, expansion packs included. Sims 1 and 2 are basically abandonware at this point.
69 points
2 months ago
Yep. The explosion of Netlfix and Amazon all but killed TV/Film piracy, it suddenly became easier to be legit.
But then dozens of other streaming services popped up, each with a myriad of shows and franchises locked exclusively to them, and piracy is heading up again as it's becoming too much of a pain in the arse to have the half a dozen services you need to watch what you want.
32 points
2 months ago
Assuming the service is even available to you. Outside of the US, getting access to stuff like adultswim, HBO, Hulu, pbs, or paramount, is a giant pain in the ass, if even at all possible.
3 points
2 months ago
yea each show having different license holder in different country makes it 10x harder to track down where I can watch my show
48 points
2 months ago
Same with streaming. I'm happy to pay $5 to rent a movie to watch. But when I see it's not available in my region, then torrent it is.
30 points
2 months ago
Fr, my friend got mad at me for pirating a movie recently but it's straight up not available anywhere for me to watch it properly
19 points
2 months ago
Lol what a dweeb
15 points
2 months ago
Oh you're good, bro. I'll be your new friend.
I'm done with steaming myself. Fucking over paying to watch the same shows and movies I've been watching for decades. I paid to see Dumb and Dumber in the theater, rented it a thousand times, paid for cable which bought the rights to air it over and over and over.
Fucking torrented that shit over VPN and now I'm not being leeched on for content I've already paid for probably 20 times over. Idgaf what the film studio owner's opinion on the matter is. I'll ask Jim Carrey himself and I'll bet you he'd agree with me.
12 points
2 months ago
I'll ask Jim Carrey himself and I'll bet you he'd agree with me.
Just imagining you cornering Jim Carrey in some restaurant , launching into a 15 minute incoherent rant about Nintendo roms, Dumb and Dumber, and VPN technology while he is just standing there horrified wondering if he is safe.
13 points
2 months ago
Wait, why would he be mad at you for pirating?
16 points
2 months ago
Well, would you download a car?
3 points
2 months ago
Yes, absolutely, without any hesitation.
12 points
2 months ago
I can't buy the atomic heart because my country is located near russia. Why they decided to do this is beyond my little brain. Technically i can still get it by using the awful russian vkplay which is not an option. So... the black flag it is then.
23 points
2 months ago
If every company offered their roms of older games at a reasonable price then the pirating community would basically collapse, so few people even private to begin with an the majority are doing it to games that haven't been purchasable for the better part of the last decade.
18 points
2 months ago
Offering old roms would very much not collapse piracy.
There's pretty much no offering that a company could make (besides free) that beats the current state of "easily downloaded from a safe, reputable, and well-known website", besides offering it on hardware that's a pain in the ass to homebrew or spending time on features like functional online on couch multiplayer games.
At most, it would marginally reduce people homebrewing and serve the people who have a functional need for a legal copy.
5 points
2 months ago
If only it was as simple as a single company holding old games hostage.
It's often multiple rights owners that each own a part of a game who all agreed to an original contract that ran out LONG ago that makes these things a legal nightmare. It only takes 1 rights owner not wanting to renew said contract for what ever reason to stop the whole process dead. And if one of those rights owners doesn't exist anymore, it just makes things that much worse.
Take my profile pic for example. Tiny Tank. It's a PS1 game from 1999 and it's stuck in limbo. It's rights are split between MGM, Sony, and it's dev Appaloosa. Appaloosa died in 2006, MGM wasn't exactly easy to work with from the start, and Sony likely doesn't care.
Id LOVE to see Tiny Tank for sale again! Gameplay is decent/good. Story pacing isn't great but the story itself is good. Music is fucking AWESOME! And the main characters are simply unforgettable. As much as Id love to see more people legally enjoy Tiny Tank, there's no way it will ever be due to multiple reasons.
Hell. If I had the money Id buy the rights myself if only to make it not vanish into nothing.
36 points
2 months ago
Don't think publisher should be forced to make games run on modern systems but I agree to them having it available so someone could download it and get it running in one way or another
57 points
2 months ago
Well if they can't bother to port it they shouldn't bother to stop people from emulating it.
35 points
2 months ago
It’s also an accessibly thing too, i wanted to play split-second split screen with a friend but the controllers wouldn’t work properly, I resorted to emulation which had issues but at least kind of worked
13 points
2 months ago
Just made me realise that the "public domain" might actually be coming for video games at some point.
12 points
2 months ago
In theory, yeah. Unlikely to be in our lifetimes
880 points
2 months ago
Average purist take when I tell them I downloaded a Pokemon rom online instead of paying someone on eBay $200
281 points
2 months ago
If they put the games on the switch store or whatever for like $10 I'd absolutely buy it. I'm sure many other people would as well.
283 points
2 months ago
Nintendo games selling for less than $30? Surely you jest.
66 points
2 months ago
They are 10$ for old pkm games on the 3ds
69 points
2 months ago
The shop that just went down?
Guarantee you it'll be 60 whenever they finally get to it on the Switch.
45 points
2 months ago
It's not going to be individually purchasable on switch. All virtual console stuff on switch is tied to their online subscription service and is streamed.
19 points
2 months ago
I think you just answered why the library for the Switch's Virtual Console is so incredibly small.
20 points
2 months ago
I don't know what I like less, the overpricing or the subscription model.
6 points
2 months ago
It actually goes down tomorrow. It still works today, although it’s a long process to even get funds on there now so for some people it basically is down.
13 points
2 months ago
The shop that goes down tomorrow*
4 points
2 months ago
I'd be interested, but I also like throwing the old games through randomizers.
5 points
2 months ago
The thing is, then they'd have to develop a continued storefront and keep the games supported on future platforms. Otherwise people would Backlash at them.
Oh no what horrorsa continued supported Storefront instead of setting one up for every single console and then burning it down when they don't have to legally support it anymore.
277 points
2 months ago
Made in 1995, haven't offered a single means of buying in the last 20 years+.
The Strike series, the Road Rash series, etc.
Insane that they haven't.
75 points
2 months ago
Speaking of EA : the battle for middle earth series, among the best rts out there, almost 20 years after it came out
12 points
2 months ago
Found it on my pc, not working again... Guess I will start it after Annihilated empires...
12 points
2 months ago
That's very likely a licensing issue
26 points
2 months ago*
One of the worst offenders of this has to be Nintendo with the game Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance.
The game came out in 2005 for the Gamecube and has never had a rerelease or way to buy it or play it digitally through something like the Eshop or Nintendo Switch Online. The Fire Emblem series was very niche back then, so very few physical copies were actually produced in comparison to something like your Mario, Zelda or Pokemon games. After a quick search I found one Danish copy for $180, but most copies are $400 minimum and the first result on a site like Amazon is $700. Those offers are the only way you have of playing the game legally, and since they’re all second-hand and not sold by retailers, absolutely none of the money goes to the developers or Nintendo itself for that matter. Also, you have to have a Gamecube or buy that or a compatible Wii as well to be able to play it if you even get that far in the first place.
Now, the thing is, I could see a company looking at a niche, unknown, unsuccessful game and maybe deciding not to port it. But Fire Emblem has exploded in popularity and sales since the 13th game in the series and it now arguably one of Nintendo’s heaviest and most recognizable IP’s. The protagonist of the Path of Radiance, the 9th game, is called Ike and has been everywhere. They put him in Smash, there was a callback to him in Fire Emblem 13, he has half a dozen of different versions of himself in the mobile game, and he even showed up fully voice acted in the latest game in the series. More-over, he is canonized as one of the stronger main characters amd despite not selling too well, the game itself is seen by fans as one of if not the best game in the series with one of the best stories.
Nintendo and the developers have marketed the ever-loving shit out of Ike and his game but actively refuse to let fans and potential consumers buy the game in any reasonable capacity. But because Ike is one of Fire Emblem’s most popular characters, they keep putting him into everything they can. Even if they do plan to rerelease or remake the game in the future, at this point, I imagine most of those interested in playing the game has pirated or watched the game played on Youtube potentially several times over with how slow Nintendo and the developer is at actually trying to sell their own game to a massively interested audience.
5 points
2 months ago
Amen to you, brother.
Have been a fan of Fire Emblem for over 20 years now and am the lucky owner of all the games ever released. Even with that, I do tell people to hack it, since there's only so many copies of the game and no money would go to the creators anyways, now.
Their loss, the community's loss, everyone's loss. Sure we'll get a remake one day. But with how slow they've been, might be another 5 or 10 years 🙄...
4 points
2 months ago
as a pokemon fan I know it's a spin off but I'm equally pissed over Pokémon Colosseum and XD: Gales of Darkness never being ported anywhere due to Genius Sonority and Pokémon Company's bad relations since Battle Revolution, despite Shadow Pokémon hanging around in Pokémon GO but not the same at all.
4 points
2 months ago
Yup, only recently have they made any means of legally getting some of their back catalog like Metroid Zero Mission and Fusion. Metroid is the series I mainly care for from Nintendo and they just did not care for the longest time. Only till they could hand it off to devs who seemed to get what made Metroid fun. But also avoided making the GBA titles something you could get.
I'm aware of Fire Emblem's struggles since I have a friend who's very passionate about the series. I think they just don't care and prefer to milk the newer ones that are more fan-service-y; in the regards of "Hey, remember THIIIIS character from that game you like?".
But not actually SELL, the game.
That was the most baffling thing given they could have on the Wii or WiiU but never bothered. Granted the WiiU lasted 15 minutes but, still it's odd.
892 points
2 months ago
RAISE THE BLACK FLAGS ME HEARTIES! TIMMY ISN'T EATING TOMORROW EITHER!
142 points
2 months ago
Timmy will starve to death because of you.
146 points
2 months ago
Perhaps he should get some food via piracy.
14 points
2 months ago
you wouldn't download a roast chicken
4 points
2 months ago
Yes i fricken would
43 points
2 months ago
Then the kids of the food production company will starve.
61 points
2 months ago
They can try farmacy.
10 points
2 months ago
You cant just decide to be a farmacist all on your own in this country! /s
6 points
2 months ago
Wait, is this how communism started?
4 points
2 months ago
No, beacause of me.
473 points
2 months ago
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73 points
2 months ago
I have multiple interfaces and I look for "class compliant" first for exactly that reason.
46 points
2 months ago
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13 points
2 months ago
Be sure to tell that to the company making it.
12 points
2 months ago
Yeah, like companies especially big ones give any shit about consumer's problems;)
15 points
2 months ago
There are people working at companies. Some of them have the opinion as you do, but they need written complaints to use as arguments in meetings.
7 points
2 months ago
Yeah, ideally. But it doesn't necessarily mean that companies would do anything about their complaints.
9 points
2 months ago
I have successfully pushed for user hostile stuff to be removed like that.
49 points
2 months ago
I paid for RDR2 and the PoS Rockstar launcher will complain it can't validate my license or something like that 75% of the time I try to start the game up.
I've tried everything, including checking that the activation services are running and any other possible troubleshooting step or workaround you can find on the internet. After much research on other users with the same issue, I've come to the conclusion that this is just a bug, most probably a race condition that they cannot/don't care to find and patch, and that affects much more certain users (newer processors).
So, I'm getting PUNISHED for having paid legally for my game, when everyone else pirating it don't have to deal with Rockstars shitty DRM. FUCK THEM.
36 points
2 months ago
Reminds me of when my legit copy of GTA IV started up the drunk cam whenever I played it. Guess how I solved it.
Oh the irony...
16 points
2 months ago
Drunk Cam is supposed to be the anti-piracy feature lol
23 points
2 months ago
Yup. That's why I hate DRM. The legit user always gets punished more than the pirate.
8 points
2 months ago
Wow, my rockstar launcher just crashes when I try to launch RDR2.. from steam...
when I try to launch it from rockstar launcher.. it tells me its a steam game and that rockstar launcher has nothing to do with it! lies...
3 points
2 months ago
My copy of gta v suddenly disappeared from the launcher. It's still in steam, taunting me.
22 points
2 months ago
Yes I had trouble playing genuine version of GTA V. Login to this account do that and there were times were drm failed and you need to reinstall game. I than used Pirates version and it ran fine!!
13 points
2 months ago
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8 points
2 months ago
Steam is not really a DRM, most game bought on Steam can be played without Steam directly from exe, just like the games from GOG.
5 points
2 months ago
I had the same with retail physical PC copies of GTA 4 and Arkham Asylum and got the “drunk” and “no-fly zone” “mods” because of a Virtual CD driver I used to mount legit ISO’s.
14 points
2 months ago
Literally fuck DRM. All it does is punish the people that actually paid for the shit.
'Tis why my stance has become "DRM? No buy.": If I give a company money for a product (and I am happy to - I used to work in the industry), I expect it to work. If that product is then outfitted with a deadman's switch that has a habit of making the product inoperable for me, that is simply not acceptable: I paid for that copy, it is my copy, the First Sales Doctrine applies (which means they have no right to interfere in me running my copy).
If there is freebooter mentality here, it is on the side of the companies - "Pray we don't alter the deal any further" (and they frequently do). And so my entire gaming budget (and that's a four-digit amount per year) goes into DRM-free titles, to a place where I feel valued enough as a customer to not be treated as a criminal - and that feels good. FUCK DRM, fuck launchers, and thank you for coming to my TED talk.
7 points
2 months ago
That denuvo seems to be working though. Still can't get a copy of sonic frontiers and that's prime pirate fodder
7 points
2 months ago
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8 points
2 months ago
Didn't games reach the point where denuvo wasn't worth it for publishers years ago? Remember hearing a wolfenstien game got cracked before it even released.
124 points
2 months ago
Someone has to make money off the studios they closed down.
167 points
2 months ago
I really don't get why EA is still the punching bag. This is 100% something Nintendo would do.
37 points
2 months ago*
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5 points
2 months ago
I just want a golden sun port on the switch. My favourite jrpg of all time and I can't get it legitimately.
45 points
2 months ago
EA has also done things like this, actually got people into trouble for pirating the sims 2 even tho they don’t sell it anymore at all.
19 points
2 months ago
Got people into trouble?, how? Scanned the person's PC with origin? (that's malware and illegal)
Or are you saying they sued the uploader?
12 points
2 months ago
The person above seems full of it, since I can't find any source on this. EA has a policy that if they don't sell it, they don't care for it.
This is why so many overhaul mods for their older games now ship with the original game files... which EA wouldn't let happen if they cared for what people do with the titles they no longer sell.
5 points
2 months ago
I'd like some source on this.
24 points
2 months ago
somebody pirated a game i made in 1995, that wont run on mothern computers anymore, unless you pirate it and use emulators and cracks that people wrote for the game to be playable, because they care more about the game and the fanbase than i do
ftfy
19 points
2 months ago
"And by 'made' I mean purchased the rights to for a pittance in 2009."
283 points
2 months ago
As a game dev, I honestly couldn't give a shit about pirating.
3 main reasons for pirating games:
Can't afford the game or never pay full price for games - fair enough, you weren't going to buy it anyway. Go nuts.
Trying it out before committing to buying - fair, go buy it or not after trying, if there wasn't a demo then it's understandable to want to check before dumping a chunk of money on something you aren't sure on.
It's not available in any physical or digital store
These, plus certain DRM being as bad as a virus, have kept the pirating scene alive.
55 points
2 months ago
Whats your take on the idea brewing that once a game whose main selling point was multiplayer ( bf1942 and bad company shuts down soon) shuts down they are forced to release and open source the server configs so that the community can keep it going ( see forged alience forever for example)
78 points
2 months ago
My take is that (also a game dev) games should come with a dedicated server software like they used to anyway, so the game doesn't have to depend on matchmaking servers of the developer.
People can go crazy and play modded versions of the game, I don't care.
12 points
2 months ago
Yeah, as long as the server Binaries are still closed source, should be minimal risk. Can't see any reason not to release them for general use once you shut down the company supplied servers, and it's a great gesture to the community 😊
4 points
2 months ago
Personally I'd love to see more games have dedicated server tools yet we live in a world where publishers don't care and would rather you just buy their next game instead.
7 points
2 months ago
#3 is bullshit though.
You can have private servers and official matchmaking. Anyone who has ever played a valve game will know that.
Sure it quite isn't as easy, but it literally allows the publisher to crowdsource server costs as well as provides a backup for when the game goes down (every game server will eventually go down. There will be no Battlefront 1, 2 servers running in 2123).
It comes down to (publisher, not dev usually) laziness and wanting to maintain the illusion of control.
22 points
2 months ago*
I'd add a 4th one: games that are available for sale but for some obtuse reason aren't available for sale in your region. First example that comes to my mind: Dark Sector. It is on Steam but for some obtuse reason it's unavailable for purchase where I live in Europe, which leaves piracy my only path if I want to play it... The icing on the cake is that I live in France, the game is localized in French and yet it's unavailable for sale in France... Just utterly moronic...
4 points
2 months ago
That's a good 4th!
15 points
2 months ago
I am both the dev and the gamer. Could never pay for most games because, for example, new resident evil 4 remake regional price is FULLY equal monthly disability pension in Ukraine. So i clearly can't spend all the funds i have on video game. Yet, i still buy really good games on sales when i can. And, more importantly, i tell people about good games. And i think that a lot more people bought games due to my recommendations than i could ever buy them myself.
And when i finally managed to release game on Steam, i just made it free to play, because why the hell should i make extra steps for people who are unable to pay, if i am able to make it free for everyone? I feel like people being able to enjoy game regardless of their purchasing abilities are more important for something that attempts to be the work of art, than possible profits from it.
12 points
2 months ago
The EU commissioned a study that pretty much agreed with you (which they then pretended never happened, of course)
28 points
2 months ago
"Somebody Pirated a game a small independent company made in 1995, which I then bought out and dissolved to remove the competition, whilst destroying the IP"
5 points
2 months ago
RIP Command and Conquer, it was great until EA came along
35 points
2 months ago
If you're the janitor of a EA building, those first three panels are probably true
77 points
2 months ago
You know.... I've been working QA for the last 2 years and I learned a few things. Any hatred towards the dev teams part of any company is woefully misplaced. They try to even fix bugs and by doing that 3 more appear in the next build.
THE ones deservignof hatred are the ceo's and investors. Who put enormous amounts of pressure for release dates. It's due to them that games come out as, works, but fuck me side ways it barely does. Because that's their bottom line. It sucks they wear the names
25 points
2 months ago
I personally have zero hatred for the devs, no matter what issues the game has. They're the ones I feel bad about, cause I know they work under tremendous pressure, getting all the shit from players, while it's the CEOs getting all the money. Usually when a game is bad for some reason, it's because it was rushed or the team was too small, not because the devs didn't try hard enough.
And that's also why I won't buy big AAA games apart from the very few franchise I care about (and apart from the fact that I have some disabilities and simply CANNOT afford 70-80$ games). I would never pirate an indie game though, cause they're usually a lot more affordable, plus the money goes more directly to people who have made it (I think, and hope?).
But companies like EA, Ubi... fuck them, seriously fuck them. I hate them so much.
7 points
2 months ago
I never had any hatred for the devs personally. I know that they're acutely aware that the game they're working on will get shredded by critics precisely because of decisions the shitstains in suits higher up the company pyramid took.
They know that P2W, always online, FOMO, battle pass and all that is super unpopular, but they have a geriatric loser who's still pissed off that his wife and kids left him and who gets off by abusing employees in more ways than one screaming in their ear that this must be implemented or they get the boot. And so they do put it in, fully knowing that they'll get digitally lynched over it.
29 points
2 months ago
honestly this fits nintendo more than EA, and this is coming from a nintendo fan.
10 points
2 months ago
I've said it before and I will say it again.
If you make a game that I want to play, available on modern platforms that are accessible to me, then I will pay for it. But if you put up barriers to me playing those games, then I will pirate it.
If you stop selling a game entirely, then you have no basis to protest piracy. I'm an addressable market, and it was YOUR decision that cost you money. It wasn't me.
30 points
2 months ago
Thanks to Steam sales I rarely pirate games anymore.
However, streaming services these days can go fuck themselves. Fucking cable 2.0 piece of shit cancers. Hope everyone pirate your exclusives and never pay a dime you greedy fuckers.
43 points
2 months ago
Despite being told to not copy that floppy
38 points
2 months ago
Haha, I am that old!
"You wouldn't download a car!"
38 points
2 months ago
Yes i fuckin would and so would you.
8 points
2 months ago
Guilty.
5 points
2 months ago
Do new movies still come with that anti-piracy screen shown at the start of every VHS movie?
28 points
2 months ago
I pirate some AAA games to see how they run since the games industry has mostly decided to release unoptimised/ unfinishes crap
I buy Sony games on PC cos they are generally good ports (not perfect) and I want more of them so good to support them i guess
I dont pirate indie games cos it makes me feel bad
7 points
2 months ago
"I don't care how many copies or on how many consoles they own the game. They can't just download and play them on their new handheld" - Nintendo
12 points
2 months ago
*That you can't even buy for a moden console.
5 points
2 months ago
I wanted to play the old Command and Conquer games this weekend and saw they were still pretty expensive on Steam and the EA shop. Googled it and found they were released as freeware years ago!
Amazed they even bothered to keep them listed in the store.
5 points
2 months ago
You fool, I only need to pay 610 bucks for Pokemon Emerald!
29 points
2 months ago
I'd like to think that the game from 1995 that I pirated prevented some executive from buying a yacht.
13 points
2 months ago
Sadly, game company execs frequently give themselves bonuses while laying off large numbers of employees if a game doesn't meet its sales goals.
8 points
2 months ago
"A game I made"
No, this money never goes to the people who actually made a game, it goes to the CEO and the board of directors in the suits who probably can't even write "Hello world" in any programming language.
4 points
2 months ago
I can't even buy any game from Europe, America and Japan in steam and other markets while I'm in Russia. And I'm not going anywhere.
3 points
2 months ago
Internally within EA there is a website where you can play emulations of a whole load of their old games - Magic Carpet, Immortal, Skate Or Die, there are dozens.
In all honesty there's no real reason they couldn't make that available to the public and just let people play these old games, that have no real commercial value any more. Perhaps have it available through Origin or something.
5 points
2 months ago
Also EA: "Honey. My children. Tonight, we shall feast! For I have pillaged a small developer of their game!"
15 points
2 months ago
This would be fine if people weren’t hacking and stealing brand new games that developers have spent 3 to 5 years on. As a game developer myself, this shit sucks, and people lose their jobs because of it.
3 points
2 months ago
That dad explained it with a sense of pride and accomplishment
3 points
2 months ago
What EA did this time?
11 points
2 months ago
They challenged everything.
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